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Question by Lady Morgana: How many “alcoholics” out there have tried Rational Recovery instead of AA?
What is your opinion about it?
Information about it: Rational Recovery isn’t really new, but it is newer than Aa. You can google the name and it goes straight to their web site, whihc has a lot of great information abou tit. I read the book. It is GREAT for me, as an AA member who got fed up with all the religion in it.
Rational Recovery is almost the opposite of AA, and the book is q
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Rational Recpvery is fairly critical of AA. The book is a must read if you want to be cured, yes cured, of your addition, and not be called an alcoholic anymore. You will never drink or use again, and the responsibility lies with you, not some Higher Power. You recognize your addicive voice, and you take charge of it.
I really lie this program and recommend it to all. I ave been in AA for 3 years, have been sober for those 3 years, and now I intend on never drinking again in my life, looking at my whole life without fear. I am eager to find out the opinions of others.
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Best answer:
Answer by Star Struck
you know…
I have been through the whole AA bit back when I was in college, and I just don’t know about it…. it really kind of forces you to see it their way, or the high way….
so…
I would like to give that rational recovery a go and read up more on it. Sounds like it has a good basis to it..
of course, whatever works for someone is the one they should use. Whatever works is good….
but AA didn’t really do it for me.
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Question by Sunshine: Does anyone know about “Rational Recovery?” Has it worked for anyone you know?
Best answer:
Answer by NothingToLose
If you are referring to the program created by Jack Trimpey, which refers to AVRT or the “addictive voice”, then yes I know about it and it works. I highly recommend it.
I am a spiritual person, I believe in God and the “higher power” BUT when it comes to addiction, it is terribly important to understand that our brains and minds function on so many complicated levels – if you stop to think about what an addiction is (to drugs, pills, alcohol, nicotine), then the process described by the Rational Recovery method makes perfect sense.
It’s easy to read all of the negative “press” that this guy has received and believe it, but the bottom line is – do you (or whoever the addicted person is) want to continue to give up all control over your life?
It is not for the faint-hearted or weak willed – if you embark on this process, YOU will be accountable to YOURSELF – for some people that is the scariest part of the process.
Hope that answers your question. It works, but YOU HAVE TO WORK TOO. Just like anything else.
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Question by Buybull Thumper: Are there any nonreligious alcohol and substance abuse meetings?
available like AA or NA just without the whole having to give yourself up to a higher power thing?
Best answer:
Answer by JDH
I think there is a “Moderate Drinkers Anonymous” or something similar. I’ll get back to you in 2 secs.
Check out “moderation.org”
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Programs vary at Christian drug rehab centers. In drug rehab centers in florida and Christian treatment centers for alcoholism and addiction follow Alcoholics Anonymous’ 12 Step Model for recovery.
Both Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) and Narcotics Anonymous (NA) consider themselves to be “spiritual” rather than “religious” programs. However, the roots of AA (and therefore NA) are in the Christianity.
Alcoholics and addicts working towards recovery are like the proverbial sinner seeking redemption. Their programs are similar: alcoholics and addicts have the 12 Steps of AA; Christians have the Bible’s Ten Commandments.
The first and second commandments are requirements that only God is to be worshiped.
Step One of Alcoholics Anonymous tells those seeking recovery from alcoholism or addiction that they must admit and accept their disease, their powerlessness over it, and recognize the unmanageability of their lives. The spiritual principle behind Step One is Honesty.
Step Two offers encouragement in that it offers hope — and Hope is this step’s spiritual principle — for a belief in a Higher Power can aid in achieving and maintaining sobriety.
The third commandment is a reminder that if God’s name is used, it should be used properly, preferably prayerfully.
The Third Step informs addicts and alcoholics to turn themselves over to the care of their Higher Power. The principle is Faith.
The fourth commandment is a prompt to work all week, then rest, worshiping God on the Sabbath.
The Fourth Step’s spiritual principle is Courage. It’s needed as this step insists upon a personal inventory along with an accounting of misdeeds.
In Step Five, Integrity is the spiritual principle. That’s what’s exhibited when AA members admit their wrongdoings.
The fifth commandment is fairly self-explanatory. In AA, it’s worthwhile to honor your program elders (sponsor, “Old-timers,” etc.).
Willingness is the principle in Step Six. One must be willing to have their character flaws removed by a Higher Power.
The remainder of the Ten Commandments involves what NOT to do:
Don’t murder anyone
Don’t cheat on your spouse
Don’t steal
Don’t lie about your neighbor or anything else
Don’t be envious
Humility is the spiritual principle of Step Seven. It is necessary to be pride-free when seeking assistance in removing our faults.
In Step Eight, the principle is Brotherly Love. That’s what addicts and alcoholics need in order to prepare to atone for misdeeds.
The principle of Step Nine is Justice. Justice is meted out when addicts and alcoholics carry out Step Eight and attempt to make “amends.”
Perseverance is Step Ten’s spiritual principle. It’s necessary to have perseverance when examining one’s thoughts and actions and admit wrongdoing.
Step Eleven’s principle is Spirituality. This step provides guidance on meditation and prayer.
Service is the spiritual principle for Step Twelve. Like evangelical Christianity, service is carrying the message and assisting those in need.
Christian drug rehab centers in Florida and drug rehab centers in florida are finding areas where AA and NA overlap with faith and sharing what they discover with those in need of recovery.
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This article is written by Peter Rhett .